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Posted 3 months ago The following link below is concerning the idea of testing employees for nicotine. I would like to really know what everyone's stance is on the topic. I personally am somewhat appalled at how employers are gearing towards the violation of human rights, and moving somewhat towards dictatorship (my opinion). How is this a free country when citizens are constantly being dictated as to what they can and can not do with their personal lives. Healthcare cost is an issue not only for employers but also for employees. I feel that this is barbaric and that business owner's need to accept the consequences with owning a business, in some cases it is the option of Healthcare benefits. Another issue that I have with this is that most employers have employees to pay a portion of the cost so I feel that employer's are not the only one's contributing to the benefits provided within their companies. I personally don't see how in my opinion attacking employees will address the health care issue and what I do with my personal time I feel should be my business. Last thought why not go after the tobacco companies to help pay some of the cost by holding them accountable, which would be the logical thing to do? How does smoking affect job performance? Someone that does not smoke could very well acquire Cancer as if they did smoke, so who will this be benefitting? I do understand the health benefits, but this issue is only being brought forward in my opinion in order to cut employer's healthcare cost, which is the bottom line. I look forward to some feedback on this one. Thanking you all in advance.
http://www.shrm.org/hrnews_published/articles/CMS_026351.asp Kindest Regards, Dominique
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| Posted 3 months ago What you do on your own time does effect other people when it comes to health care. You go to the doctors and they inform you that you have lung cancer because you smoked. The cost for the operation is going to be roughly $250,000. Where do you think that money comes from. It comes from premiums that I and everyone else has to pay. It comes from companies paying health insurance premium. I can not afford my medical premiums, my company can no longer offer medical benefits due to cost. Why are the cost so high. Because people are stupid and even though they know that smoking causes cancer and causes a burden on the health care system what do they care. They can do what ever they want to their bodies, it is their body. Change the system so that in order to smoke, they must get a prescrition from a doctor, and a doctor will not be allowed to give a prescription to any one not 18 years old as of the date the law is enacted. As part of the prescription, the person who gets the prescription signs a waiver that no medical insurance will cover them for cancer or any other medical condition caused by smoking. You want to smoke, fine, but you pay the cost of your medical bills by yourselve. This country is free, but people need to understand that with freedom comes responsibility and part of being responsible is knowing that if something has a negative effect on you or society, then you must take action to prevent the bad and evil things from happening. How much money is wasted on healthcare because people smoke. There are consquences of smoking that effect society as a whole and therefore companies should have the right to say if you can not play fair and take care of your body and do things to prevent future medical expenses, then they can and will charge you more for insurance or deny you coverage or deny you employmen. They and society are the ones paying for your choice to smoke, so they should have a say in the matter. |
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| Posted 3 months ago What about a company that uses BMI (Body Mass Index) as one of the hiring criteria? |
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| Posted 3 months ago To dmiller: You've got to be kidding! This can't be legal; what sort of profession is this for? |
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It is working in a physically demanding environment and what shocked me, it was cleared by the corporate attorneys. For the record, I do not agree with the practice.
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| Posted 3 months ago Well, that seems a bit ridiculous. A person can be overweight, and still be physically fit, studies have shown. It would make more sense to have physical tests as they do in law enforcement, etc. |
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| Posted 3 months ago We are on the exact same page. I am trying to impliment some changes without upsetting the managers who have been here for years and "we have always done it that way" |
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| Posted 3 months ago BMI( +) can be considered for WWF AND bmi(-) CAN BE CASINOS .
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| Posted 3 months ago Yes, smoking is bad, it smells bad, is bad for your health and the health of those around you. It is also legal. What an employee does on their personal time should be personal. Smoking is not the only danger to the health of employees that contributes to the high cost of health insurance. There is also the cosnumption of alcohol, maybe next employers can mandate the amount of wine you have with dinner. What about overeating and consuming too much fat? This leads to obesity, which in turn leads to heart problems and diabetes. If smoking in the workplace has an effect on job performance, then it would be up to the employer to rightfully put in place a no smoking at work policy. After all, they are paying for your time and have the right to say how you spend it. A better solution for the high cost of health care would be some preventative measures taken that can help employees lead a healthier lifestyle. It is a shame that health insurance companies are reactive instead of proactive when it comes to this. Perhaps if they would cover the cost of smoking cessation programs and prescriptions they would not be spending the money on treating illnesses related to smoking. Just my humble opinion, try not to snap at me too hard for it. |
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| Posted 3 months ago There is also the cosnumption of alcohol, maybe next employers can mandate the amount of wine you have with dinner. What about overeating and consuming too much fat? I remember learning in my HR management class that some coporations actually do restrict the use of alcohol during personal time. If you are caught drinking on the weekend, regalrdless of your age, you will be reprimanded and possibly fired. I was really suprised to learn that but my teacher had actually worked for a company who did this.. |
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| Posted 3 months ago Having been a generalist for a PEO (professional employer organization), I believe that there are companies out there with such policies, I just question the legality and enforceability of such policies without a BFOQ. For instance, a company I know of would have ee's sign a drug policy acknowledging that if they were injured at work that they would be drug tested and benefits would be denied or reduced based on the results of the drug test. The truth is that benefits could not be denied because the company was not an official "drug-free" workplace (as defined by statutes). Since drugs are illegal, you would think that you could deny benefits with proof of use, but it was not the case. |
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| Posted 3 months ago There are companies where safety is the highest priority . For example I know an associate of KBR (Oil and Gas Rigging Company ) has the provision of checking the employess randomly regarding percentage of alcohol. It safety motto is ,"we are never too busy to overlook safety "Actually what is the benefit of smokin I dont know. Still we smoke . Good news many of the corporate culture dont allow smoking in the workplace . Where the company is providing medical expenses either full or to a certain portion ,those companies may impose such rule that smokers are not welcomed . |
