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Posted 2 months ago Does your boss have less credentials than you in terms of education? If so, what is your opinion on the matter? |
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| Posted 2 months ago My boss has a high school education and nothing else while I have a Bachlor's degree and a PHR certification. That being said, I was hired to replace my boss when he retires next year. I beleive he would feel very threatened if he was not planing to retire. But the difference in education does not bother me, I know how well I do my job. |
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| Posted 2 months ago I think that brings out an interesting point. I personally wouldn't feel threatened by someone who had more degrees than I did, but worked as a subordinate to me. For one thing, it isn't always the person who does the job best who happens to be the manager, and for another thing, the diploma doesn't always guarantee that the person holding it really knows how to do the job. I think that experience is worth at least as much as a diploma, though it didn't cost as much. And I think that if a subordinate knows how to do something better than I do, my work will be better and easier for letting him do it. He'll advance better if I do that and then tell my managers about him, and why shouldn't he if he can do the job? If I'm worried about my job, the thing to do is make sure that I'm doing it so that I don't lose it. That's from a manager's viewpoint. From an employee's viewpoint? Well, pretty much the same. If he doesn't have a diploma, and I do, that doesn't necessarily mean that I know more about the job than he does. For whatever reason, he's the boss, and the thing for me to do is show that I know my stuff without really worrying too much about how much he knows. After all, it'll show up soon enough if he doesn't know as much as I do, and it's always possible that I might learn something from him and his experience. You never know. |
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| Posted 2 months ago My boss has a BA degree and a have an MS degree, but he also has many more years of work experience, so it really balances itself out. |
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| Posted 2 months ago Not having a degree I am probably biased (I am working on it) but I have found that just because someone has one doesn't guarantee that person is competent or more knowledgeable. It does show that the person committed the time, effort and money to higher learning without a doubt and it should be recognized as such. However that being said it doesn't mean you’re now more qualified than someone with experience. Is it not true that if two people are equal in education and apply for one job that the one with experience will have an edge? I agree that it's a simplistic example because as we know other factors play a part but I think my premise holds true. I have found that a degree opens doors otherwise unavailable and allows people to start at a higher level than those without one. Don't get me wrong I would love to have one and will eventually but IMO experience CAN be just as valuable. |
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| Posted 2 months ago When you attain your degree you will think otherwise believe me. |
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| Posted 2 months ago Degrees are fantastic to have. I have a BA degree and I worked hard for it. However, I don't believe it automatically makes someone more qualified to do a job. I don't believe it can be black and white... |
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| Posted 2 months ago These are really good posts, with well-balanced views. |
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| Posted 2 months ago Anonymous says ...
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| Posted about 1 month ago Hello What happens if your bosss does not have th degrees nor the school diploma, is not great with work but can do far better as they have some other skills - non hr skills.... well they throw tantrums, misbehave , humialte you in front of others... and also keep making a fool of everyone by leting the entire non HR departments the issues within HR, To add fuel to the fire- the senior management has no clue what so ever happening, they have put in a position to handle most difficult jobs, but do not want to appreciate fearing your boss`s nature. what can you do please help
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| Posted about 1 month ago My boss has a degree but virtually no HR experience whatsoever! I've got years experience but no degree. That paper takes you farther than ever before! |
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| Posted about 1 month ago 20 plus years ago HR professionals and even until about 10 years ago, were selected by their ability to get the job done, their abilities to help steer the company, support the executive ideals, the values, etc...etc..whether or not they had Graduate degreees was secondary. The workplace and the makeup of the market has changed dramatically!! In order to be competive in the higher level positions in TODAY's market you have to have a graduate degree or higher. Their are some that even require in addition to the degree a Specific Certification (HR for example). The question is... if my boss has less credentials...etc...It depends. I have had a few bosses that are legacies! They are coveted, and sought after because they are so good at what they do....and they do not have the higher level degrees...Bachelors perhaps.. and they have my complete respect and admiration. However if I were to get a "boss" now that is fresh out of school, and has NO work experience.. I would have a big issue with that! I think that in order to be a leader in the HR field, you have to put in your time, and go through all the learning, and DRAMA!!! (LMAO!!), and work your way up the HR food chain. I think the degree certainly will help when you get to the top rungs. In the day to day, manager level....it is not relevant ...YET! |
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| Posted about 1 month ago Excellent post, and very valid points! |
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| Posted about 1 month ago Degrees are a good thing to have. They are helpful especially for entry level positions. However, to progress in a company, the degree alone will not get you to the top - it is about intelligence and performance. |
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| Posted about 1 month ago Exactly. I've had many employers tell me that just because someone had that piece of parchment, that didn't guarantee that they knew how to do the job or had the common sense to get through the process. There are so many different aspects to the subject! |
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| Posted about 1 month ago A degree or no degree? That is the question! While I'm all in favor of continuing education, what about those that have extensive work experience within a company or with several companies? Why is it that the companies still prefer that piece of paper? Experience speaks louder than the piece of paper. I've seen where people have the degrees but no relevant work experience get the good jobs and then do absolutely nothing because they are at a loss as to what to do and how to do their jobs. Not fair to those who can't afford education but have the work experience to back them up. |
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| Posted about 1 month ago maybe we could put it this way degree or no degree, but your understanding and mastering your occupation is more important for the growth. yes employees with abilities, competencies, skills should be considered equal to an employee with a degree, maybe the later is a misfit, as it is difficult to survive without experience in teh ladder up. |
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| Posted about 1 month ago I enjoyed working for a few bosses with no degrees. They all did a very good job, and in fact I learned something from each one of them. Also I found myself in that position early in my life. I was a boss without a degree. I never felt threaten with some people working for me who had degrees. We all worked togeher very well, and if fact the second company I worked for expanded two different times. I am thankful for that group of people, and how they supported me. Also I was always there for each one of them. We all played an important part to have a good relationship with each other. |
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| Posted about 1 month ago Anonymous says ..It depends on the experience of the person and I strongly believe that if he has acheieved in life He is capable of being the boss to run the firm or whatever business he holds so less education does not mean that you cannot acheive anything in India Most Ministers are not qualifed but they rule the country Does your boss have less credentials than you in terms of education? If so, what is your opinion on the matter? |
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| Posted about 1 month ago The boss may have greater experience; however, he/she will hit the ceiling at some point. Your boss may have little room for advancement. The person with a degree has a greater chance to advance.
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| Posted about 1 month ago I've actually known personally some people who are holding jobs with no degrees that had a requirement of no less than three, but the stellar performance on the job and their high level of knowledge gained through their work got them the job and kept it for them, above all the other applicants who had the degrees. It's been the case for about 20 years now that people are being encouraged to go ahead and apply for a job, even if they don't have the degree. As for promotions, well, these people are being promoted quite well, right along with their degreed peers, have the respect of their peers, and are being chosen by the company to attend seminars so that they can train others in what is new in the field because they're so quick to learn and so able to teach. I think that when the internet came about, and it started becoming easier to get information for degreed work or for classes in university, that power of the degree to lock others out was lost. However, that isn't to say that the day of the degree is done. In the 80's there was such a glut of people with degrees that the degree was completely undervalued, but the climate is balancing a bit. Globally, degrees still carry a message of education and respect. But experience weighs more heavily still than most might think. In spite of what one would think, there are CEOs of major corporations out there who do not have degrees, but have worked their way up with performance and leadership. How far up you go depends on you whether you hold a degree or not. If you had five degrees and couldn't lead, you wouldn't be a CEO. |
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| Posted about 1 month ago Performance earns promotions, degrees do not. Whereas degrees are important in some areas, you will always find that there are those who reach the top without them. I know from experience that there is no ceiling for those without degrees, so do not count on the degree to get you where others can't go. I know for an absolute fact that this is not the case. |
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| Posted 25 days ago I see it too. |
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| Posted 21 days ago I have a BA my boss a high school diploma. My job is being eliminated while she is transistioning to another management role. Isn't life great. |
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| Posted 21 days ago I have been working for a number of years, and I have worked for many bosses with no degrees and I am very close friends with some bosses with no degrees. Over the years I have gained a lot of respect for these people. Many times I have learned important job talents and skills from these people. The companies I have worked for have been very successful and some of the bosses had no degrees and I am proud to say I was a part of each one of the companies. There are the behavioral parts of employment I learned early in life from each one of these employers. At no time do I expect someone to step aside or that I should get a promotion over someone else because I have a degree, or more then one degree. I do spend time away from work learning ti improve my employment skills for my employment, or prepare myself for other opportunties that might arise in life. For example: I am always positive in my thinking, constantly staying focused and I review my short and long terms goals often as a way to be a productive employee. So I guess I don't have much time to think about my degrees and others who do not have degrees. When the day comes I am not happy working where I am I will leave that employement in good standing and with respect to all those I have worked with and for. I mention the above information as an example of how I feel and look at bosses with no degrees. This information is not meant to hurt anyones feelings. Also I might mention when I teach students or adults often I have to teach them how to prepare and take are of their employment before I can teach them the skills. We have a lot of nice people in our society, but the number of those who give you the impression they don't care about the important things and they just want the pay check. |
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| Posted 9 days ago
Degree or no degree a position or role ought to be determined by measurable results and competencies. I have worked under and with people who have held a degree and who have not held a degree. I have found that a degree does not determine level of competency within a role. Likewise years of experience can not accurately reflect level of competency within a role.
In my experience it is an individual’s current competency, potential competency and performance that determine suitability to be in any role. |
